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/xs/ is a place to discuss all types of extreme sports and similar physical activities, which include (but are not limited to) skydiving, surfing, skateboarding, snowboarding, climbing, rafting, bungee-jumping, parkour, BMX & mountain biking, airsoft, paintball, etc.

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~~Crack edition~~

>Where do I start?
People typically start in the gym and branch off outdoors and find their niche, be it bouldering, trad, sport or a mixture of the above. Some never leave the gym at all. Ultimately it doesn't matter - just get started and enjoy yourself.

>How fit do I have to be to start? Do I have to be able to do x amount of pull-ups?
Being light, strong and flexible helps at the higher levels but climbing is open to almost anyone and is fairly intuitive to most. Even if your body is feeble and weak now, you will develop strength over time by virtue of just climbing. Climbing is a holistic sport and success often hinges upon many factors, not just strength and power, but having these qualities definitely helps when you breach into the higher grades.

>What shoes do I buy?
If you're starting out in the gym, don't worry too much: get some snug shoes without dead space that don't cause you lasting pain. Some people (such as the famed shoe designer Heinz Mariacher) recommend wearing soft shoes when you're starting out -- this makes sense since your footwork will probably suck and the increased feedback will pay dividends over time. You really don't need fancy expensive shoes when you're starting out, but certain shoe properties help send harder problems (e.g. stiff shoes for standing on tiny granite edges or soft shoes for sandstone/gritstone smears).

Here are some useful resources for sizing:
>https://sizesquirrel.com/
>https://rockrun.com/blogs/the-flash-rock-run-blog/rock-climbing-shoe-sizing-guide


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>>197809
According to google, Finland has a totally different grading system. Like an extremely sandbagged version of UIAA grades.
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>>197822
i think all of scandinavia maybe, i remember reading some article about norway having similar grading system
i'd guess some newer routes get yds grades
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>>197809
I’ve got no personal experience about that but I read a blog about Nordic climbing the other day and the guys said that some (many) of the crags in Finland are properly sandbagged.
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>>197777
>(the kilterboard is for faggots)
based. fucking retards climb on gym jugs and think they're V10 level
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the olympics qualis are on the olympics yt channel not the ifsc one if anyone is looking for them

What if UFC had heightclasses instead of weightclasses?
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>>198072
they're narrow and uneven
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>>198059
I guess you could look at the old ufcs, like the first 10, when everything was absolute, and see what the weight advantage to win ratio was like. But the data is so old its hard to compare to modern day.
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>>198059
>>198148
Oh well, I guess someone will have to run an open-weight MMA tournament for a few years and see what happens.
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>>197415
So thankful i have wide shoulders
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Dc is only shorter because he has no neck which is an advantage in all combat sports. Look at his waste line and shoulder height he is 6’2 proportions with no neck and a short round head. Put omalleys neck and head and he’s 6-2

>be me
>practice Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu twice a week for 2 years
>train with people who haven’t been there as long as me for the 2 days I was there this week
>They know the fucking technique better than me
>Rub salt in the wound by trying to lecture me how to do the techniques properly instead of getting a more experienced gym member
>Feel shame for my godawful Jiu-Jitsu
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>>197940
Do not quit. Talk to your coach and ask him for advice on how to improve. I’m willing to bet you’ve hit an early plateau and need to work through it. It may require you completely change up your game and get “worse” in rolling for awhile until you get better.
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>>197940
Some people just have a knack for it. Some people are athletically gifted. Some people are younger than you. Some people have fewer responsibilities and train way more than you do. Some people come to jiujitsu with prior experience in other forms of grappling. There's any number of reasons why one person might progress more quickly than another person. Don't get butthurt, just solve the problem. Train smarter.

>>197965
This right here.
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>>197940
You suck dude. Probably still a white belt.
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>>197940
Get john danaher free solo training video from bjjfanatics

I really doubt you spend time on the ground out side of class(normal)
That's why moving your body on the ground feel weird
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>>197965
>Talk to your coach and ask him for advice on how to improve
ayee jus keep showing up to class my fren

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>>198141
>Skating's so fucking dead right now
this is a great thing, way less kooks at the skatepark
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I ate absolute shit few days ago and sprained my ankle really bad. I'm walking on crutches, what are some fun tricks to do on crutches. I can't pop my board, I'm not allowed to put any weight on my ankle :(
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>>198010
update, i skated it yesterday and holy shit is it grippy, but not in the like super fine sandpapery way. board was sticking to my feet on some high ledge 50-50s which was nice but kickflips were very weird to land... new board too so idk. looks weird too (pic related)
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>>198191
Holy shit I fucking hate that dusty look. Gimme black grip tape pls.
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>>197887
>>197898
I don't know how to prove it to you, but the Zero story 100% happened. He somehow thought I didn't even know what Toy Story was.
>>197935
He did, but this little shit wouldn't even know that. Zero aren't really a well known brand in the UK but distribution here is shit.

>>197889
It's the landing where my toes drag. It's a bad habit in general, but it's easier to catch a trick with the middle of your foot and sometimes you heel depending.

Is Judo the best single martial art in terms of self defense?

When it comes to street fights, almost everyone can agree that being on the ground is bad considering the possibility of things like glass being on the ground and someone else coming up and kicking you in the head. Therefore wouldn't the best martial art for street fights be one where the whole goal is to slam your opponent into the ground without falling yourself? Especially because while a person would expect punches and kicks from their opponent, something like a hip throw would likely catch them by surprise
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>>197362
All the legit styles are pretty good on their own even. It just depends on the situation
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>>197488
UFC was full of ex professional athletes. I'm talking mr hobbyist.
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>>197530
>nuh uh doesnt count because it doesn’t align with my worldview
Your opinion is based on fee fees not evidence

There’s also a lot of mma outside of the ufc btw
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>>197362
the single most important factor to winning an actual fight is cardio since 99% of people are going to be completely gassed after 30 seconds. if you can keep going for longer than that you've won regardless of style
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>>197362
Muay Thai.

I never really did Muay Thai specifically but after training in a whole bunch of different martial arts for many years I find that front kicks, clinches, knees and foot sweeps just end up being the safest and most effective techniques to pull off when you don't have padded mats and a ref to pause the first.

Round kicks don't control a fight, punches can break hands, elbows are hard to get the right distance for and grips are unreliable because clothing changes.

https://youtu.be/VXYqqx8DwFY?si=-v3v3oTAR1fEfUtD
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>>198016
But dick waving and shitposting is so fun
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>>198127
NTA you're responding to, but you're right that while training should be the primary focus of whatever grappling style you practice, the Gracies have notoriously lied, omitted, downplayed, and doctored the history of BJJ's development. They even omit George Gracie who was actually the best fighter out of the 5 original brothers, but they had a serious falling out due to opinions on competing against Luta Livre/Catch as well as money issues.

You're right that only autists care about "OMG! IT'S NOT KIMURA IT'S UDE-GARAMI THAT SUPERIOR NIPPONIC DESU CREATED!" However, it's incredibly disrespectful and insulting when the Gracies and other Brazilians are making money off of Jigoro Kano's gift to the world; Judo schools are run for non-profit and do not charge anywhere near as much as BJJ academies do.

>inb4 Judoka
Nah, I'm the ex-folkstyle wrestler and current boxer. I'm an amateur hopologist ever since I read Donn Draeger's Comprehensive Asian Fighting Arts and love the intricate backstory and development of combative sport whether striking or grappling. I'm just rolling my eyes at these type of threads because it really reeks of single digit IQ knuckle-dragging that the early Internet used to have when more evidence and facts are around today for people to learn.

I have a lot of respect and admiration for BJJ on how it popularized groundfighting and submissions to the masses as well as being an intricate core of MMA. I just don't drink the "99% of fights all end in the ground" bullshit or "The evil Japanese kept their ancient samurai fighting skills secret until the noble Gracies gave it to non-Japanese" narrative that got peddled for decades.

>>198150
Absolutely. It's a derivative. It sourced itself from Judo, but both Sambo and BJJ became its own thing though Sambo and BJJ received transfusions of Judo tech long after both styles were conceptualized because Judo itself also adapted and changed with the times.
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>>198038
>That's why BJJ was typically the sport of the middle and upper classes in Brazilian society while Luta Livre was looked as a poor man's sport since it didn't require it.
How terrible was Brazil that the ability to purchase a single garment was the difference between wealth and poverty?
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>>198030
>steamship and time travel
My dream as well

>>198184
>a single garment
that is over priced around 400% to 600% above what is should be
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>>198184
>poverty
Abject poverty

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Weekly Debate Post: Skiing vs. Snowboarding!
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>>196155
It only my second season snowboarding and I want to practice and improve so I can actually enjoy different resorts beyond their green and blue trails trails later on.
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How do I cope with this season being over? Editing videos can only last so long until there is nothing left to edit and the gym is so boring. I want to go back!
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>>196683
iktf i've been thinking about going to mount hood or something
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>>196683
>How do I cope with this season being over?
i'm afraid i don't know what you mean
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I'm not a mountain biker but I've been considering dropping a few thousand into a bike and starting,
this season fucking sucked, usually up north here the snow is great but my local hill didn't even open and I had to drive hours to the closest hill which is kinda shitty.

So pissed off.

when will this faggot fight again? I like his style and he definitely beat Sean, but when is he gonna defend that title against the Bugman?
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>>197267
>yan
>washed

Retards like you are the reason this sport's discourse has gone to shit.

Also costa is an interesting match up for sean. Costa's bodywork will be an issue for sean defensively and he won't be deterred by sean's jabs.

A loss to a someone who just went to war with whittaker isn't an indictment on sean.
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>>197679
>>197682
Love the old ruleset and feel. Wish they did this again with more English dub
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>>197679
Wow, they let the hammerfists go for a while

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SPAZ Edition

Old Thread:>>187462

Keep strictly real-steel related topics in >>>/k/, gun and gear porn's cool as long as you don't spam.

If you have a useful guide or want to rework one for the OP, post it and someone will add it to the next one.

>Recently updated Newbie pastebin
https://pastebin.com/9EdSzRMj

>Recently updated /asg/ retailer guide
https://pastebin.com/VHtFZX8M

>Legal comprehensive, crosscheck with your local laws to be on the safe side

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>>198097
>wait up my line is leaking for some reason

Literally happened three times today
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>>197977
No, but it does have other uses.
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>>198142
No, the barrel, muzzle break, front blade sight, bolt+handle, front sling mount, safety, trigger, magazine cutoff/bolt release, loading gate and magazine tube retainer are all some sort of zinc based metal. It sounds like a lot (and I guess it is) but I would have traded some of those parts for a metal rear sling mount, outer barrel and magazine tube.
The rest is cheap plastic. Stock seems to be made of higher quality nylon plastic.
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>>198159
I forgot, the top rail is also metal.
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>>196612
I am build a German north African kit
I am enjoying it alot but where I live is always wet and snowy

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Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu General
I only do it because it's trendy edition

Smoothcomp
https://smoothcomp.com

Belt Checker
https://www.beltchecker.com

Previous thread
>>178342

Thread question: What kind of amenities should a gym have?
I think there should always be a bowl of oranges on the front desk for anyone to have
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>>198171
yeah...
I did
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>>198172
Avoid the temptation to wash it out. Water activates the compound.
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>>198175
I found that out, in the shower
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>>198176
Fucking kek. Congratulations, you've played the world's oldest wrestling prank on yourself.
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>>198171
One time I bought a bottle of ghost pepper hotsauce and was shaking it up before opening
And for whatever reason I was naked, fuck you I'm home alone so sue me, and the cap flew off and the sauce splashed all over my cock and balls
So I was sitting there naked at the edge of the couch with my whole package submerged in a glass of milk wondering where it all went so wrong

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What martial art to survive england?
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>>192940
Cane-fighting. Canes are perfectly legal to carry around even in Bongistan and a long stick is your best chance against a short knife.
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>>192940
...you do know that happened in the U.S. right? Apple River in Wisconsin. Sorry just your pic led me to believe you're implying the event that inspired that meme took place in the U.K. and maybe don't go?
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Bar-do
Mastery of the british law code.
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>>198076
And the "boomer" guy was romanian I think.
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>>192940
No joke for dealing with a knife,
boxing and wrestling.
if you have good defense you will be fine.
Also get a stab vest to wear under your clothes if you go out.

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Riding season started above the equator Edition

FAQ on buying a bike that nobody reads anyway:
> What good bike can I get for under $500?
a stolen bike. Possibly a newer used entry level hardtail but don't expect it to survive rock gardens, jumps, or drops. Or an older mtb which won't be as good as newer ones and will still have a front derailleur, but it'll be good enough.
> What good bike can I get for under $1000
Good used hardtail, new entry level hardtail
> What good bike can I get for under $2000?
New Hardtail, decent used full suspension
> What good bike can I get for under $3000?
https://www.yt-industries.com/fr/produits/velos/capra/uncaged-10-al/602/capra-mx-uncaged-10/
Used full suspension, decent entry level full suspension but prepared to put more money into it.
> What are the excellent value brands?
Marin, Commencal, Canyon, Polygon, YT, Propain, Kona, and many more. Sometimes the expensive brands have an excellent alue bike
>> What are the differences between an XC, Trail, Enduro, and Downhill bikes?

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>>198035
>Titanium frame
A factory made ebike will be better in every way and cost the same as any titanium frame worth buying
>>198037
I haven't seen that happen once to myself or anyone I know who rides. I think it's probably something you're doing that's causing it to rip
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>>198077
Not a clue myself, I'm riding slightly above recommended pressure and around the middle of rebound and compression dial ranges. Each time I do service a fork I put some sram butter on the rubber bladder to make sure it doesn't go hard and crack plus using clean rags which have been washed prior to use so there shouldnt be any sharp debris within the fork after cleaning. I ride year round and my bikes are stored in a shed which isn't insulated and is on cold nights probably getting to -10c in winter which could possibly be a factor. It's quite annoying that sram don't actually sell a 1st party bladder so hopefully the 3rd party bladder I've ordered isn't trash.
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>>198093
Hmm, my hunch would be the temperature fluctuations then, or maybe the rubber is brittle at lower temperatures. Everyone I know keeps their nicer bikes indoors, and the only bike I use during the winter with any frequency has a fork with a motion control damper with no bladder. Perhaps you could try a damper with an ifp instead of the bladder, or keeping your bike indoors during the winter?
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>>198096
That’s what I would’ve thought but -10c isn’t that bad right? All suspension bits can certainly handle freezing and plenty of people use forks in subfreezing (would warm up with use more than a still fork in a shed)
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>>198100
>-10c isn’t that bad right?
Checked. Looking on sram's site, the official operating temperature range is -12C to 49C, so that's not too far off. My guess is the rubber gets stiff below that temperature and tears from the repeated strain

Ameri-do-te edition

discuss martial arts here

Discord Channel: https://discord.gg/8Vw9d7j

What to look for in a martial arts gym:
>Physically conditioned, fit participants
>Trainer with certified professional record and a training history with at least one athlete who competes successfully
>Sparring, "aliveness" in training
>At least one participant competes at amateur or professional level
>Physical conditioning part of training
>Clean facility with mats that are frequently cleaned

What to be wary of:

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>>196883
Dutch Kickboxing partially took influence from savate as Johan Vos (Hoost's trainer) incorporated it into his gym as well as Thom Harinck's Chakuriki Gym did. Gilbert Ballatine did savate matches. Lucien Carbin mixed Savate with his Kyokushin Karate and Muay Thai.

>>196885
The 80's was indeed a magical era with all those various fighters of different formats pitted against one another like Pete Cunningham (Full-Contact) against Richard Sylla (Savate). It was also when Muay Thai truly exploded internationally when all sorts of Nak Muays went overseas and showed how devastating their art was like Dieselnoi manhandling John Moncayo or Changpuek showing why low kicks are no joke.
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I want to spend a few months as a live-in student, or similar, where and what styles still offer this? i've been doing kyokushin for almost three years now but I am interested in all kinds of martial arts.
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>>198053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM7Mq8Z_aPE
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>>198053
aikido still takes in uchi denshi at the hombu dojo, even foreigners, but you need approval for it
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>>198053
Seconding the Kodokan. Unless you're after something specific judo is probably the best general-purpose lifetime martial art and the Kodokan has a very established program for taking in and training foreign students.

Thread for Judo (other jacketed wrestling styles welcome)

>Discussion starter
What are your favorite non-dominant side moves and why?

>IJF World Tour Schedule 2024
https://www.ijf.org/calendar?age=world_tour

>Watch
https://www.youtube.com/c/judo
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>Video Resources
https://www.youtube.com/@KODOKANJUDO
https://www.youtube.com/@Shigashi84

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>>198071
This
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>>198071
One thing that I do like about belt systems/ranks etc is people know how much experience you have

I started wrestling recently and it's scary not knowing who else is new and who else is a monster who will ragdoll me
I also wish they knew im brand new. And also who I can ask for advice/help
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>>198116
>An MMA gym that rented space to instructors of various styles. It was a fucking joke. Taking a class with a traveling instructor
You're judging judo from some wandering charlatan instead of having any experience at an established program. Skill issue on your part.
>trying to say what you can & can't be doing at a certain level, when the beginners MMA class is going at the same time
Having done all three, wrestling and BJJ are safer for novices to fully practice than judo, which requires competent breakfalls to avoid concussions, broken wrists, etc.
>when I said "unironically better to learn from a book at your own pace," I meant just like practicing breakfalling at your gym and just going for some throws with a sparring partner.
I disagree, even as someone who is a good self-learner. Then again, I've had competent instruction.
>Says the fag talking about taking written and oral exams.
Make up your mind. Should students understand the underlying fundamentals and unifying principles or not? How are you supposed to test large groups of new students for a basic baseline of comprehension without asking them if they comprehend the baseline? A 1:1 student:instructor ratio might be ideal but I've only ever seen it at one school.
>Guess what dipshit, you got had by a Mcdojo.
My first exposure to judo, after years of scholastic wrestling, was a university program run by two red-white belt instructors (one a former Olympic coach) assisted by a cohort of black belts. Several other instructors I've had came from this program; in their smaller schools you were verbally quizzed, often informally. I also trained for a short while at one of the oldest dojos in the country, which gave out printed study guides and made book and internet/YouTube recommendations. I've visited some smaller schools in rural areas without having time to see too much of the process for new students there, but in my experience judo dojos uphold Dr. Kano's streamlined teaching principles.
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>>198152
Hierarchy's will emerge everywhere and I know it's common for wrestlers to talk shit about belts or whatever, "we don't have ranks, we just wrestle" yes you fucking do
Wrestlers have ranks, they just don't wear it on their uniform during practice
But you'll see kids walking around to safety pins on their wrestling gear reflecting their performance so even wrestlers put trophies on display the same way people do with belts
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>>198152
>I started wrestling recently and it's scary not knowing who else is new and who else is a monster who will ragdoll me
Just relax and learn. Getting ragdolled can be highly instructive if you keep a level head about it, reflect on the lessons learned after the fact, and keep trying your best.
>I also wish they knew im brand new. And also who I can ask for advice/help
I perceive that to be the main value in a belt system. Instructors know how to sort large classes at a glance and newer students can identify advanced students and take the load off of the primary instructors. Everyone gets used to teaching what they know as they advance and you end up cultivating a very strong group of instructors over time.

>>198154
>"we don't have ranks, we just wrestle" yes you fucking do
Absolutely. Natural in-team hierarchy aside, end-of-season tournament performance was taken very seriously. Some of the kids who wrestled at the higher levels got pic related tattooed and exposed that tattoo every chance they got.
>they just don't wear it on their uniform during practice
>the same way people do with belts
I would argue the primary utility of the belt is that it's worn during practice.


there's a wrestling thread but it's pretty dead: >>174608


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