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https://www.elysian.press/p/no-one-buys-books The U.S. publishing industry is driven by celebrity authors and repeat bestsellers, according to testimony from a blocked merger between Penguin Random House and Simon & Schuster. Only 50 authors sell over 500,000 copies annually, with 96% of books selling under 1,000 copies. Publishing houses spend most of their advance money on celebrity books, which along with backlist titles like The Bible, account for the bulk of their revenue and fund less commercially successful books.
>>23325813libraries buy physical books from publishers, then lend them out to readers. it's analogous to bluckbuster, who bought dvds and vhs tapes and then lent them out. by contrast, netflix produces its own content and streams it directly to consumers.the distinction is that in the library/blockbuster case, the publishers manufacture and sell a physical product for profit. the cost of manufacturing a physical object sets a floor on its price, and the publishers add a markup. the copies also degrade over time, requiring the lender to make repeat purchases from the publisher. the result is a large, recurring revenue stream.in the second case, the publishers don't sell any physical goods; they only sell a license to a digital file. files are cheap to transmit, even with ten times the markup a publisher would apply to a physical dvd or book. so, publishers make less money even when they distribute more copies of the same material.to get a bit more concrete, let's consider the following example:>10,000 libraries each buy 2 copies of a trade paperback>the books cost $5 per unit to manufacture, $2 goes to royalties for the author, and $3 goes to recurring business expenses (legal, hr, etc.)>the book has a total per unit cost of $10>the publisher marks the book up 100% and sells it for $20>this gives the publisher $10 of profit per unit sold>multiplied out, that's 10,000 * 2 * $10 = $200,000 of profit from a single book, in its release year aloneComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23328247Good point, but the question arises of how should a publisher make money through ebooks then, if it is so unprofitable? Since it is not likely to go away. There are lots of i dustries which seem to profit from total overall views, through advertising and so on. Do you think that ebooks should start containing advertisements?
>>23328622>how should a publisher make money through ebooks then, if it is so unprofitable?in the long term the best move for publishers would be to build their own subscription apps and cut Amazon et al. out of the deal. the film industry is already doing this (disney+, peacock, hbo, and so on). then publishers could set their own terms with libraries and consumers, and presumably raise prices.>Do you think that ebooks should start containing advertisements?iirc the lower tier kindle subscriptions already do this, but all the ad money goes to Amazon. we'll probably see more ads regardless desu.
>>23324435You are probably correct about the books being purchased as advertising. During the anti-Scientology protests back in 2008 an Anon that worked at a New York bookstore reported that the Scientologists would come in and buy the copies of Dianetics off the shelf. The bookstore would reorder them and they would be delivered with the bookstores price tag still on them. This allowed the Scientologists to keep promoting the book as a New York Times Best Seller with X million copies sold. I suspect the main market of that promotion was internal to the organisation, propaganda to keep the masses believing. Just as Mao's Little Red Book, Gaddafi's Green Book were for internal consumption. Political hagiographies aren't to convince the other side or the undecideds in politics, Western societies are too fractured for that. They are to bolster the loyalty of the decided to the party with "Did you read...blah, blah, blah" discussions and ensure they go out and vote.
>>23324886Back in the '80s my high school had an original 1st reissue Magna Carta in the foyer in an old perspex case. None of the students knew about it, if they did they didn't care. Original documents about liberty don't mean much when the population has been subverted and dumbed down. Distributing The International Jew and the Protocols would be priceless, people have to be aware of whats happening now before they will start looking back for what was lost.
I like reading books
reeeeeeally?...name 1 (uno) book
Cynic edition>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>23256805NOTE: replace ' dot ' with an actual dot to access the links below>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANEhttps://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRgFeel free to write your thoughts/stories/etc... in your target language.>Work in progress FAQComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23328531How about the title from Wheelock here saying verbs that MAY introduce? So in certain situations it isn't necessary for them to take an infinitive?
>>23328554https://dcc.dickinson.edu/grammar/latin/subordinate-clauses-indirect-discourseThis explains it pretty well.
>>23328554because they may take a simple object, the indirect statement is needed if the object they take is an entire phrase that would normally go in the indicativescribam tibi multa(no infinitive), quibus docebo te artem illam(no infinitive), quam plerique aiunt mortalibus a dis emolumento donatam(infinitive phrase)
>>23328420>current yearfag
>>23328554There is one archaic exception to this. In old Latin (I know for sure in Plautus), sometimes the construction is replaced with a subjunctive. You will not see this in classical authors though.
https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/ShapeOfSuffering/Contents.html
The Cula-Malunkyovada Sutta, MN 63[9] and 72[10] contains a list of ten unanswered questions about certain views (ditthi):The world is eternal.The world is not eternal.The world is (spatially) infinite.The world is not (spatially) infinite.The being imbued with a life force is identical with the body.The being imbued with a life force is not identical with the body.The Tathagata (a perfectly enlightened being) exists after death.The Tathagata does not exist after death.The Tathagata both exists and does not exist after death.The Tathagata neither exists nor does not exist after death.In the Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta,[6] "Discourse to Vatsagotra on the [Simile of] Fire," Majjhima Nikaya 72,[web 3] the Buddha is questioned by Vatsagotra on the "ten indeterminate question:"[5] avyākrta[4]Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>Nirvana is atakkāvacara, "beyond logical reasoning".[6] It is difficult to comprehend with logic or reason, since it is not a concrete "thing."[6] It cannot be explained with logic or reason to someone who has not attained it by themselves.[7]>The four imponderables (acinteyya) are identified in the Acintita Sutta, Anguttara Nikaya 4.77, as follows:[8]- The Buddha-range of the Buddhas [i.e., the range of powers a Buddha develops as a result of becoming a Buddha];- The jhana-range of one absorbed in jhana [i.e., the range of powers that one may obtain while absorbed in jhana];- The [precise working out of the] results of kamma (Karma in Sanskrit);- Speculation about [the origin, etc., of] the cosmos is an imponderable that is not to be speculated about (SN 56.41 develops this speculation as the ten indeterminate).>Pondering over the four acinteyya is a hindrance to the attainment of liberation. Sacca-samyutta, "The Four Noble Truths", Samyutta Nikaya 56:Therefore, o monks, do not brood over [any of these views] Such brooding, O monks, is senseless, has nothing to do with genuine pure conduct (s. ādibrahmacariyaka-sīla), does not lead to aversion, detachment, extinction, nor to peace, to full comprehension, enlightenment and Nibbāna, etc.[17]And the Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta, "Discourse to Vatsagotra on the [Simile of] Fire," Majjhima Nikaya 72:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>23328672>>23328636>>23328647thanks
>>23328555That's not true
I read a bit of this book and I just want to hear your opinions on it and its accuracy.I'm sure we can have a peaceful and rational debate about this work.
>>23328460Who's the cutie on the far left, and is she male or female?
>>23328460>>23328467Er, woopsies, far left and bottom I should clarify, I'm not interested in Einstein : ^ )
>>23328470Rosalind Franklin
>>23328460>jews>geniusbeing pathological doesnt make you a "genius".
>>23328525thanks friend
Does the Quran just resonate with people better? Christianity is dying while Islam grows. Does this settle which holy text is does it's job better?
>>23327299Look, anon. 1300,000,000 is one billion three hundred million or one thousand three hundred million. A billion is one thousand times a million. 1300,000,000 is one thousand three hundred times a million.
>/lit/ is pretending to be into Islam after dropping Catholicism and the Orthodox memery
>>23327359kek, me. I went from posting orthodoxy threads to catho/lit/ threads, and now i'm posting in threads about islam. it unironically does seem like the truth, though. to take what >>23323217 says, it feels like the Qur'an is the 'top of the pyramid'.
>>23327592>>23323231, not >>23323217
>Does it issing just resonate with people better? Its is dying while it issing grows. Does this settle which grammar does it is job better?
>Mere Christianity - C. S. Lewis>Introduction to Christianity - Pope Benedict XVI>The Confessions of St. Augustine>St. Thomas Aquinas - G.K. Chesterton>Orthodoxy - G.K. Chesterton>The Everlasting Man - G.K. Chesterton>A Shorter Summa The Essential Philosophical Passages of Saint Thomas Aquinas Summa Theologica - Peter J. Kreeft>Catechism of the Summa Theologi - Thomas Aquinas>Catholic Catechism of Saint Piu - Pope St. Pius X>Early Christian Writings The Apostolic Fathers - Andrew Louth>History of the Christian Church (Complete Eight Volumes In One) - Philip Schaff>Ignatius Catholic Study Bible New Testament RSV 2nd Edition>The Faith of Our Fathers - James Cardinal Gibbons>The Spirit of Catholicism - Karl Adam Robert A. Krieg>The Complete Ante-Nicene & Nicene and Post-Nicene Church Fathers CollectionComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23328142Leaving a false religion is not immoral. Is your point that Catholicism is a false religion?
>>23328196The point is that you can't tell if you're in a false religion unless you challenge it.
>>23328213What you are doing is not really a challenge...You are more or less saying (I'm over simplifying here) "I like those people, so if they are sinners, there is nothing wrong with sins". The problem is, you are not really thinking about what is the nature of sin.Also, unless you live in a small community of saints, in this Earth you will always be surrounded by sinners.
>>23328049Anon, originally you stated your reason for not being able to come to terms with Catholicism was because of people going to hell. Once again I reiterate, people damn themselves to hell with their actions. Their actions are their own, and are contrary to perfection as defined by pure actuality aka god. You can say “that’s not fair” but you’re just warring against reality at that point. God is simply what he is, his nature is that which has been and can not change, as perfection is necessarily static. As for your idea of faith in other religions, it is in fact the same faith, but their faith is in the wrong thing. Anon, it is no sin to critically look at Catholicism (as far as I know), but you have to be intellectually honest and no jump any guns. Once again this is what separates Catholicism. The Catholic Church developed science and post classical philosophy as a way to understand god. We are encouraged to learn more about these subjects and challenge, as it creates a greater understanding of actuality aka God. >>23328213Faith is one thing anon. You need to have it at some level to believe in literally anything. I’m not gonna say I’m an Idealist or a Sophist, but they have a great point that you genuinely do not know anything is real or if you’re that previous brain in a vat. That’s your faith. But once you assume reality is real and you do live in reality (which is what you have to at some point), you always find your way back to god and Catholicism logically. The church and Jesus do not ask us to have blind faith anon. In fact, if you want to get your faith back go look at the miracles across the world. There are many, and you can reason your way through it. Go study western philosophy. You end up at Catholicism. Go read historical accounts of Christ, you come to realize he’s 100% historical. There is so much evidence for the lord. You just need to go out and want to find it.
>>23320452>Nouvelle theologie is curious. Need to see some critiques perhapsMatthew Minerd has stepped up on that front. See:The Thomistic Response to the Nouvelle Théologie: Concerning the Truth of Dogma and the Nature of Theology>https://matthewminerd.com/booksWho Wasn’t the Sacred Monster of Thomism?: Overcoming Certain Narratives about Fr.Reginald Garrigou-Lagrage, OP, in the Hope of Mutual Honesty Among Faithful Catholics>https://isidore.co/misc/Physics%20papers%20and%20books/Zotero/storage/IW8HL9KP/Minerd%20-%202023%20-%20Who%20Wasn%E2%80%99t%20the%20Sacred%20Monster%20of%20Thomism%20Overcom.pdfOf Manuals and of Those Who Did Not Write Them: The Case of Garrigou-Lagrange>https://www.athomist.com/articles/of-manuals-and-of-those-who-did-not-write-them-the-case-of-garrigou-lagrangeComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>Just follow your own rational self interest, broIsn't it in someone's rational self interest to have a functioning society instead of being a greedy capitalist pig who disregards everyone and everything save for their wealth and power?
>>23328438No, but she was a pain in the ass to all who played sycophant for her. Her partner, her apprentices, her aides, not to mention spending years sexually grooming her successor and trying (and failing) to tear down his career after he cut her off.Rand may not have been evil, in fact if you read her biography you’d recognize her as a product of trauma and fear, but she was burdensome in a way that only a severe strain of girltism can generate
>>23328624What if I raped you and put my thumbs in your eyes? How would you feel then?
>>23328681It's to do with Atlas Shrugged, in that having the state dictate how the economy should operate is an awful idea and that people should be rewarded based on what they have earned rather than what they say they need.I know very little about Rand outside of that book and am wondering why people hate her.
>>23328432Wow look it's the same fucking thread again
>>23328690I would feel awful. What does this have to do with the topic at hand?
Does anyone else have "Book-Wear Anxiety"? When I buy a brand new paperback, I'm often times so awed by it's beauty (The crisp page edges, the smooth spine, the unblemished cover) that I get legit anxiety around handling the book and creasing the spine and knowing my thumbs will eventually stain the edges of the pages where I hold them. Sometimes it's so bad that I can't even bring myself to read the book until I've washed my hands and even then I only open the book as little as possible for me to read.I know that a "pristine book is an unread book", but still, it bothers me and I don't know how to overcome these feelings.
>>23322497Lol
>>23325679>Yeah, I love this watch, that’s why it’s all scratched and the face is broken
>>23322889this but for me it's not that it looks "worst" but that it looks like it's been read as is the purpose of books
>>23326997My favorite watch actually is beat to shit. It's a 10 year old G-Shock with solar panels and automatic time adjustment. The cosmetic stuff fell off in the first 3 years but all the essential stuff is still holding out.
>>23322452buy hardcover or secondhand your welcome
/wwoym/ write what's on your mindhigh trust editionprevious >>23324263
>>23328416Find God bro
>>23327661>”Shlomo, I saw a poorly-drawn swastika in the bathroom! There’s Palestine flags on campus! People are making fun of me on the internet! Pogroms starting next week! Holocaust 2 by 2026!”>”Nothing ever happens, Moshe.”
I made a video talking about the Two Minutes Hate: https://youtu.be/o1DtNIxOD5k
So many supposed 'genocides' are such a meme. The Native Americans got conquered. Palestinians are getting conquered. Russians and Germans weren't genocided in World War 2. The Chinese and the various ethnic groups which comprise its citizens and cultural people were not genocided during its many, many civil wars and imperial dynastic overhauls.
>>23328678Palestine got conquered a long time before Israel showed back up. Though I think you're being unfair, because the guys in those examples who were trying to do a genocide were trying really hard, and I think past the first 100,000 dead, they should get points for effort like how youtubers get that silver plaque thing
Where in Marx's corpus does he talk about money being a commodity in it of itself?i.e deflation if new money is not createdTy
>>23327787You seem to be equivocating more and are relying on more absurd notions to try and make whatever it is you think your point is. I believe it safe to infer that you do not have an alternative answer to the OP, and the one I provided was sufficient.
>>23327980MMT all but admits that modern money is a fugazi
>>23328202Hehehe that is a rather mild criticism of MMT amongst the range of them I have heard. In fairness to the MMT crowd, they are not quite so different from traditional Keynesians in that aspect, a sort of 'public mandate' through the government. I could say that was birthed from Karl Marx's own lips, but I will say that traditional Keynesians do have different priorities at different times. I usually make a joke about how some Keynesians decided to make extrema based conclusions using the same starting material, a sort of maxxed out Keynesian architecture that was likely born from the indolence/indulgence of their predecessors. My favorite is the traditional Keynesian claiming taxes need to pay down debts and MMT advocates claiming they are only useful for curbing inflation. At this point in American history though, I suspect the MMT crowd is winning, the notion of directly crediting consumer bank accounts and the normalization of extraneous stabilization is now more de jure than it is experimental. Most traditional Keynesians have accepted that the national debt is an impossible hurdle to surmount in terms of paying off, even with the hottest economy in world history and high taxes being implemented across the board, such a hypothetical scenario at this point would still pose a validation to the MMT crowd in terms of needing to limit inflation. The dual mandate is really the only thing the traditionalists have left at this point with major clout, and I would venture to say they only reason they still are in possession of it is likely because it is not something politicians directly manage in all candor.
>>23328202Crypto admits you can get in on ground floor>>23328265>My favorite is the traditional Keynesian claiming taxes need to pay down debts and MMT advocates claiming they are only useful for curbing inflationIf you actually mean Keynes instead of mid-century academic economics he can be excused for not thinking much about how sovereign debt would work in the modern world. Keynes at Bretton Woods actually advocated for a global monetary unit of account outside control of nation states along with institutions to FORCE balancing international trade by regulating deficits/surpluses before losing out to American interests who wanted the dollar used in international trade and to be allowed to run large post-WWII trade surpluses (which turned into large permanent deficits)
>>23328597>The restoration of the gold standard (whether at the pre-war parity or at some other rate) certainly will not give us complete stability of internal prices and can only give us complete stability of the external exchanges if all other countries also restore the gold standard. The advisability of restoring it depends, therefore, on whether, on the whole, it will give us the best working compromise obtainable between the two ideals. The advocates of gold, as against a more scientific standard, base their cause on the double contention, that in practice gold has provided and will provide a reasonably stable standard of value, and that in practice, since governing authorities lack wisdom as often as not, a managed currency will, sooner or later, come to grief. Conservatism and scepticism join arms—as they often do. Perhaps superstition comes in too; for gold still enjoys the prestige of its smell and colour.>Nevertheless, there does seem to be in almost every case a presumption in favour of the stability of prices, if only it can be achieved. Stability of exchange is in the nature of a convenience which adds to the efficiency and prosperity of those who are engaged in foreign trade.>This is a function which the State banks of such countries could usefully perform. For this they must either themselves command a certain amount of foreign currency or they must provide facilities for accepting short-period deposits in their own currency from foreign bankers, on conditions which inspire these bankers with complete confidence in the freedom and liquidity of such deposits. Keynes did advocate for a number of internationally binding and solvent measures, not unlike the socialist internationals. He also advocated for excessive spending and deficits in times of hardship, but not to the extent that MMT advocates argue. It is also worth pointing out that MMT advocates are also generally in favor of ensuring the dominance of the domestic currency and avoiding debts in foreign currencies and securing debtors and creditors in the domestic currency. This allows for total authority of the domestic fiat currency, since the domestic government cannot print foreign currency out of thin air it will always be at a disadvantage in repayment. If it can secure a creditor in the domestic currency then it can print its way to repayment which is effectively detrimental to the creditor, and it is always in need of new debtors to keep the dominance of the domestic currency relevant. So perhaps Keynes was the blind optimist and the MMT crowd are just rebranded realists?
>>23327551>people who are correct remind me of people who are wrong
>>23325681>The latter is not a mark against its political successes.War is a political action. So yes, it does reflect poorly on their ideas.
>>23326949Notice the pivot from>The difference is that neither Kant nor Freud ran with obvious logical contradictions and mathematical impossibilities. You’ve never even read Capital, obviously. Else you’d know there is mathematics in the book and that it’s not just journalism.To>If you can’t find the mathematical errors and misunderstanding of limits here you have absolutely no business doing math or economics. He could be somewhat forgiven considering he did this in the 19th century and analytical calculus wasn’t properly fleshed out yet but you cannot be forgiven for it.Guess we lost track of all the “mathematical impossibilities” in capital huh. Also, one again, if you had actually read the book you would realize that LTV isn’t baseless. He spends essentially the entire first chapter proving it. That tells me that you haven’t even read the first chapter.
>>23327590Well I think that pic and your reaction to it tells me we live in a world today in which people take representations of things to matter more than anything. The statue of Philip Schuyler was a representation of an historical figure, and here we are battling over these symbols and signs, and are inclined to bombard each other with word-weapons like Nazi or commie. I'm rhetorically annihilating you, in other words, when I call you a Nazi. These supposedly powerful phrases allow me to "frame" the debate going on here, and when I repeat them endlessly, gives me the impression that I have the power of mind control.Or at least it does that for a few minutes before my enemies seize the phrase, reframe it as their own, and by these means "seize control of the narrative," so I end up being killed by my own booby trap.
>>23323298You cannot.They are demoralized and no amount of factual information will break the programming.It is only when a military boot is stamping on their testicles that they will realize the truth.
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>>23327050i tried giving his fanfic a go some time ago, put on the playlist and laid down in bed with eyes closedlisten to amazing fucking chapter, can't wait ti hear the next and next lines. okay next one. meh kinda boring... damn... really boring..... this part doesn't even make sense... what is this? I check, the boring one was one of his, the amazing one was a sample chapter. shucks but the quality drop is too apparent for me>>23327024i agree with this wholeheartedly, thanks for putting my thoughts to words anon
>>23327847I personally really enjoyed a lot of his fanfic chapters, but of course they're never going to be on par with GRRMs writing
Canonically, which ASOIAF character has the biggest cock? Hardmode: No Cleganes, Hodor, or Duncan the Tall.
>>23328220There is someone literally called the longinch.
>>23328220Nimble Dick
/pg/ - Poetry GeneralPost poetry, your own or otherwise, and discuss. Critique and discussion constantly in dire supply. If you're looking for critique, consider giving details on what exactly you're wishing to improve in the work(s).
>>23327561I didn’t think your poem was bad at all, anon. keep writing.
>>23328370if its 1:1 its plagairism
>>23328565If it's 1:1 on an anonymous Zimbabwean bicycle enthusiast forum no one is profiting from another's works nor adding to their own reputation
>>23328581Doesnt matter. All kinds of niggers get off to shit on this website. Its actually even more weird you use anonymity as an excuse to plagairize
>>23328640It's actually mental that you're blasted about plagiarism on a site in which no academic integrity is violated nor anyone stands to profit professionally or monetarily by posting another's work.This is like getting pissed at art inspiration threads on /tg/ or whatever because they don't credit the artist.As I said, echoing other anons, people post the works of other to bring awareness to them.I posit that by divorcing a poet's name from their work, the work can stand by its own merits, allowing interested users to ask about or search for the original poetThere is no injured party and poets only receive free advertising